Author Topic: Dial Scan Repository  (Read 326 times)

Telechrony

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Re: Dial Scan Repository
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2024, 11:38:36 AM »
The short answer is I don't know, but most sources say a vehicle wrap should last from 3 to 7 years. You have to consider, though, that a typical application would be outdoors and subjected to some harsh weather conditions and those aggressive whirling brushes at a car wash. For use as a clock dial, however, the material would be indoors and protected behind the clock's crystal, so I guess its life span would be way longer. One thing that might be a consideration is heat generated by the movement's coil, but its effect remains to be seen. My first reproduction dial was your plain ol' sticky-back vinyl that I applied to a 1st Generation Buffet; it's been a couple years now and doesn't show any discoloration from the coil. This vehicle wrap vinyl is made to be durable, as are the inks used for the graphics and I'm really impressed with its ease of use. However, it is more costly than other adhesive back vinyl products.........

When it comes to cost paper is the most economical. I recently had Kinkos print-up some 1st Gen 2F02 reproduction dials on their heaviest paper, they turned out fantastic and only cost a few bucks. Because the paper is so thick, it lays flat and, being held in position by the crystal and bezel, I didn't feel the need for any adhesive. The only draw back is the low gloss, but printing on photo paper might be a better alternative. Here's a picture of the result.
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Re: Dial Scan Repository
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2024, 10:07:28 AM »
Please pm me.  I would like to experience one of your vinyl dials.

I have a 12" wall clock in dire need of a much nicer dial.  I am planning on expanding your supplied 8" dial scan to 12".   Then check the local print shops for either paper or vinyl scan prices.

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Re: Dial Scan Repository
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2024, 04:19:53 PM »
This is one of the 2 same model dials I have.  Really unattractive.  Cleaning does nothing.  The numeral style is different than the posted 1a108 scan. In order to flip the clock it needs a much more attractive dial even if it is not the original.  I of course would correct the labeling to make it just a Telechron.  My clients are much more interested in a nice dial than anything.

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Re: Dial Scan Repository
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2024, 04:33:28 PM »
Is that a 1H912 or the post war 1B915? I did a 912 last year, but the dial is too large for my scanner. I'm thinking that Kinkos has large bed scanners  |-& That would be an option, if they do. I don't know whether you've scanned previously, but 600ppi results in very sharp images.
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Re: Dial Scan Repository
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2024, 03:44:41 AM »
1H912.
We have at home a legal paper sized scanner

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Re: Dial Scan Repository
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2024, 11:48:01 AM »
Update.  Took the clock apart and started soaking the never been serviced movement in naptha.  Just for jollies I tried cleaning the dial.  To my surprise a very dilute solution of Simple Green changed/removed the staining.  Also started removing the paint.  So I treaded the fine line between better and oh crap and now have a much better than as received dial.  It is blotchy and I did rub thru the paint in one small spot.  I then applied a coat of auto wax on the dial and it is good enough to be reinstalled.  Not perfect by any means but more than acceptable for hanging in a man cave wall or garage.  Photo to come.
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Re: Dial Scan Repository
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2024, 12:09:00 PM »
Happy it's working out  @@*
Before cleaning a dial I apply a coat of 3-in-1 oil and rub it in, using just my fingertips. Seems to give all the staining an oil base. I then use diluted Dawn dish soap to remove the oil.
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2024, 02:40:42 PM »
I have the other dial that I can try your oil technique.  It is even nastier looking . 
I am going to play with the vinyl material you sent me.  The more choices for dial repairs the better

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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2024, 04:45:37 PM »
Update.  Took the clock apart and started soaking the never been serviced movement in naptha.  Just for jollies I tried cleaning the dial.  To my surprise a very dilute solution of Simple Green changed/removed the staining.  Also started removing the paint.  So I treaded the fine line between better and oh crap and now have a much better than as received dial.  It is blotchy and I did rub thru the paint in one small spot.  I then applied a coat of auto wax on the dial and it is good enough to be reinstalled.  Not perfect by any means but more than acceptable for hanging in a man cave wall or garage.  Photo to come.

That scuff mark disappeared!
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Re: Dial Scan Repository
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2024, 04:59:33 PM »
I have the other dial that I can try your oil technique.  It is even nastier looking . 
I am going to play with the vinyl material you sent me.  The more choices for dial repairs the better

I also apply car paste wax before removing the oil. Here's an example of my result.......
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Re: Dial Scan Repository
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2024, 01:58:03 PM »
1H912. Ugly one.  This one is heavy steel, the other was aluminum.
I tried the oil rub cleaning method at the 4oclock point.  Nada.
I tried dilute Simple Green in the center, it removed some of the grunge.  I tried 99% isopropanol at the 2 o'clock position.  Nada.
I tried the dilute Simple Green at the 9 o'clock position, over rubbed.  It removed not only the background paint but also started to remove the number 9.
So in this case, this dial cleaning challenge ,nothing short of a replacement dial would be acceptable.   I had purchased this clock as a parts clock for its movement.  Did not care about the dial. 
Next will be trying to make a 12" version of the 1A108 dial via Photoshop. Then look into printing it.

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Re: Dial Scan Repository
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2024, 02:57:25 PM »
1H912. Ugly one.  This one is heavy steel, the other was aluminum.
I tried the oil rub cleaning method at the 4oclock point.  Nada.
I tried dilute Simple Green in the center, it removed some of the grunge.  I tried 99% isopropanol at the 2 o'clock position.  Nada.
I tried the dilute Simple Green at the 9 o'clock position, over rubbed.  It removed not only the background paint but also started to remove the number 9.
So in this case, this dial cleaning challenge ,nothing short of a replacement dial would be acceptable.   I had purchased this clock as a parts clock for its movement.  Did not care about the dial. 
Next will be trying to make a 12" version of the 1A108 dial via Photoshop. Then look into printing it.

Geez man that dial looks pretty ruff  :)
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Re: Dial Scan Repository
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2024, 07:35:20 PM »
What about distilled water and using a melamine foam sponge (generic of Mr. Clean Magic Eraser)?  Frequently re-wet the sponge to remove the dirt.

Often any type of cleaning with liquids will leave uneven shininess on the dial in my experience - the original sheen is changed.  Any way to avoid this other than not cleaning with liquids?

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Re: Dial Scan Repository
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2024, 03:53:36 AM »
Magic Eraser usually works, does something.  Not on the ugly dial.

 

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