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Larry

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Hammond Empress Face Issue
« on: March 04, 2019, 09:14:45 AM »
I bought a Hammond Empress at least a year ago, but I only just recently reassembled it.  The reason that it took so long was that the blue tinted glass mirror face looks awful, and to make things worse, I cracked it while removing the hands.  At the time, I made some inquiries about finding a way to replace the glass, but I had no success.  Lately, I have been thinking about possibly buying a small mirror, somehow cutting it to the correct size and drilling a hole though the center and then applying some sort of tint coating, probably a film, perhaps something intended for automotive applications.  Does anyone here have any advice or suggestions?  Needless to say, this is a very desirable model, and I would love to have it looking nice.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2019, 07:04:32 PM »
Don't bother with the sprays. They look crappy for a valuable clock.
Better to hit the antique shops and look for cheaper 1930's deco furniture with blue mirrors on them. End tables, cocktail tables, dressers etc that are priced right (cheap) because the wood is beat up. I have 4 nice ones that I use for decoration on table tops from these sources.
 If the mirror is in good shape and can be removed, and you have good glass cutting skills. No, I am not selling them.
YOU ALSO MUST HAVE THE ABILITY TO DRILL HOLES IN GLASS. Have you ever done this before???
It takes special tools. Practice on scrap glass first before you even buy anything.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2019, 08:32:28 PM »
Thank you for the advice.  I will have to keep my eyes open.  I have never cut or drilled glass, and I know that it is not a simple task.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2019, 08:10:40 AM »
Well, glass cutters can do the cutting for you cheaply.
Drilling the hole may cost you alot more.
This whole thing may be a bad idea for you.
Ask prices first.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2019, 02:42:43 PM »
I had asked a local glass shop for a price on a small non-tinted mirror with a hole in the center, and they told me that it would be something like $45.  I didn't want to spend that much.  I will have to keep on the lookout for options.  I certainly do not want to spend a fortune on this clock.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2019, 08:49:31 AM »
Wrong direction here. Also a complete waste of money. Glass has to be BLUE. Your clock is worthless with a plain mirror replacement.
You need to have the right glass for the guy to cut for you.
Thats where the price quotations need to start from. Nobody makes blue mirrors anymore.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2019, 04:49:36 PM »
I know nothing will look as good as tinted glass, but tinted acrylic can be had and drilled much more reliably.  It could look better than the cracked original.  I saw a number of Ebay listings for the blue mirrored sheet.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2019, 04:55:11 PM »
I know nothing will look as good as tinted glass, but tinted acrylic can be had and drilled much more reliably.  It could look better than the cracked original.  I saw a number of Ebay listings for the blue mirrored sheet.

I hadn't thought of using acrylic.  It might be worth investigating.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2019, 05:06:52 PM »
I did a quick look and saw that there a numerous companies offering mirrored tinted acrylic for reasonable prices like this: https://www.inventables.com/technologies/blue-mirrored-acrylic-sheet.  I would prefer to visit a business in person so that I can try to match the color.  I will have to try to see if there are any such suppliers in metro Detroit.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2019, 08:29:12 AM »
Guys, you are forgetting something. BLUE TINTED ACRYLIC MIRROR is what you need.
Sure, that would like ok. Now go find THAT product.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2019, 02:15:52 PM »
I always do a search before suggesting that a product could be used.  Here is what I found.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=blue+mirrored+plexiglas&_sacat=0

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2019, 04:25:25 PM »
I always do a search before suggesting that a product could be used.  Here is what I found.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=blue+mirrored+plexiglas&_sacat=0

I suspect that those are somewhat darker than the original, but I just ordered one for $13.95, so I will see.  Figuring out how to properly cut and drill this material will be a project, but the sheet I ordered will provide spare material in case of mistakes.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2019, 08:46:46 AM »
Looks good. Get some cheap clear stuff to practice.
You will need special tools for cutting. Drilling is easy.
Cutting would require polishing edges if exposed, but your use will not show a slightly rougher edge.
Telechrons use mostly exposed edge blue glass, so this application would be difficult, as cutting is the easy part, and finishing is NOT.
Example.... cutting double circles in a Luxor.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2019, 05:21:07 PM »
The edges of the mirror glass are hidden in this clock, and the hole is mostly hidden behind the hands, so precision cutting/drilling will not be needed.  The piece I ordered is theoretically large enough for four or more clock faces, so there should be some room for mistakes.  If I can manage to do this well, I might offer a replacement face or two for other Empress owners.  I have a neighbor down the block whose father supposedly does stained glass work, so he probably knows how to do proper cuts.  I might ask my neighbor if his father might be willing to help me.

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Re: Hammond Empress Face Issue
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2019, 02:47:17 PM »
You use the word GLASS. You do mean acrylic, right?
 Very different materials to cut and drill.

 

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